Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:00 <inaudible>
Speaker 1 00:00:10 Everyone and welcome to connections for life, your gas, utility, weekly updates show. Uh, as you guys can tell, we got a couple extra faces in the crowd with us today is going to be our, uh, ideation of a mashup with coffee with Jim and James and ups goes connections for life.
Speaker 2 00:00:31 It is great to be here. This is a very special, uh, coffee with Jim and James episode two. When I think about this, I think about how Starsky met Hutch, how Cagney met Lacey Darryl hall met, met, whatever that guy's name was. I met your Daryl. Yeah, that's it. That's it. But anyway,
Speaker 1 00:00:52 I, you have any references that are relevant from like the nineties, nineties forward. Yeah. We were like set. All right, got it. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Go ahead. Starsky.
Speaker 2 00:01:05 That's great to be here. Um, I think what we should do, you know, we have a lot of familiar faces, uh, amongst us here, but maybe a lot of us don't know each other as in depth. So James, I'm gonna hand it over to my partner and uh, why don't we do some intros just to get to know us a little bit more as people that just says the energy industry that most of us know is sad. So James, take it away. My friend. Thanks, Jimmy. And, uh, thanks to obstacle's guys for letting me join today. Uh, I don't know who you might want to think of. And also Jim, you said it was episode two. Um, I know they all blend together when we're in pandemic, but episode, this is a, there was a bunch of them. Oh, I'm sorry. Mistaken. Yep. My name is James.
Speaker 2 00:01:50 We got no clue how many episodes were on either. Just so you understand that. Well, my name is James Krause. I'm the VP of brand. And um, I'm also a dad, a husband, a teammate at EWM. Honestly, my passion is in bringing the, uh, my background. Didn't really put me in this industry in the beginning, but the kind of like what we say of Texas, I got here as fast as I could. So I'm a nerd at heart and I'll probably always be, I was in it for a long time. Uh, but kind of seeing how I could lend my skill set to this industry has really made a difference for me. So, um, I'm also a terrible golfer. Uh, I don't know who joined the club, probably an equally terrible fishermen, but either stopped me from having a good time doing that was I'm super pumped to be here. It's awesome. Thanks for letting us match this up today.
Speaker 1 00:02:46 Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Obviously we're super excited. Do you guys have, uh, to have you guys on board, um, it's, uh, it's interesting kind of how this is all materialized, right? You know how we started from, uh, from, from this beginning? Yeah. He just referenced Drake. Oh my gosh. There's the 2000 reference for you, Joe, that you needed. I don't even know who that is. That's priceless. I know. So anyways, um, but for those of you that don't know me, I'm, I'm Joe Seretta, I'm the business development manager at, uh, upscale, uh, been there for about 10 years, uh, much like James, I'm a father to three little girls, uh, they're near and dear to my heart. Um, and uh, this whole COVID thing has just been kind of crazy. It's been an interesting change of pace in how we do business and how we work.
Speaker 1 00:03:28 And, um, you know, it's, uh, it's kind of brought some things back to reality, I guess is a good way to put it. So it's good to have, um, familiar faces and friends and just you guys every week, um, you know, used to doing it in person, but having the ability to do it here and sharing the stories with everybody has been great. So, um, that's it, I mean, you guys, most of you guys know me or at least have heard of me or stories, so I'll, I'll pass it along to whoever's next. They think it's Jato. Maybe. Um,
Speaker 3 00:03:54 I'll go next that, uh, so my name's Chad Kubo, obviously, uh, I'm the rap Apple app. Here we go again, Appalachian region. You think I wouldn't be allowed to have the job if I can't say the word, like I'm the Appalachian regional sales manager for upscale I've been known, I've been in the industry and industry series is since I'm 20 years old for about 20 years. Uh, always kind of based around the utilities a little bit, a little bit. I grew up, uh, essentially working in my first seven or eight years in a coding facility in Pennsylvania pipe coding Cassilly for that we sold pipe to or so coding essentially to all the utilities. Um, and eventually moved over to this side. I've learned a lot since I've been an obstacle for about six years now. Um, like you guys, I'm also father, I have a son and a daughter, my son got drafted in the OHL. He's a heck of a hockey player one day farther.
Speaker 1 00:04:49 Oh, for everybody that doesn't know, that's his name? He's you're going to hear him again. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:04:53 Yeah. Easily. Hopefully. So, and uh, I have a daughter who's who's awesome too. Who's 13. So it's, uh, like Joe said, COVID is really kind of changed the dynamic of everything and I've, I've actually been able to, to become kind of a dad a little bit more than I, I wouldn't be able to a hundred percent, um, I haven't been home for more than a week and about 12 years, like at a clip and now I've been here for eight. There's always a silver lining. Right. It's been cool is, and I, you know, it's crazy. It's and it's awesome to be in this industry. Other than that, I wanted to pass it over to Jim. I always love what he has to say.
Speaker 1 00:05:29 That makes me want to no pressure after that intro, by the way.
Speaker 4 00:05:32 And you know, me since I'm shy and timid, I don't like to speak a lot, but, uh, over the next 45 minutes, I'm just kidding. Uh, executive director of strategic alliances. Yes. Uh, Ted that is a lot on my business card and it really means I do a lot of what we're doing right here. Connect the dots. Uh, friends, I have thousands of friends in the energy industry. I've been in the energy industry for 20 years. Um, it started actually in my family with my great-grandfather in the oil fields of Oklahoma that are actually part of that enemy. So that goes back way generations. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Um, so I am a father, I'm a grandfather. I am a fiance.
Speaker 2 00:06:20 It's a fancy word for adulation. I didn't know that. Uh, I knew that
Speaker 1 00:06:27 I knew that.
Speaker 2 00:06:30 Yeah. Right. It's going to be weird when he has a different, last name,
Speaker 4 00:06:35 Shameless plug, because she's been in the industry for longer than me for 20 years. Yes. Sandy Bohemia with, uh, NRI clock spring. Yes. That is true. We are engaged. And uh,
Speaker 2 00:06:47 I know that's public coming out. Whoa. Ah, coming out party, Jim Mamiya comments are exploding. It's going by rule right now. Hey, I did that at a conference. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:07:03 One time I was at some conference and I announced that all of a sudden her phone started to blow up. She was a thousand miles away and she's like, and all of a sudden my phone she's like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm getting phone calls and texts from like,
Speaker 2 00:07:14 Wait until the internet comes. All right.
Speaker 1 00:07:18 That's awesome. That's really cool. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 00:07:21 You guys. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 00:07:23 Is that along the Tam too? As you know, we're, we've been good friends with Tammy for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:07:28 Uh, everybody knows her, so it's, uh, she's well-ingrained and well-respected in the industry and it's great to have her as a partner. We do a lot of fun stuff together. We like to do things outdoors, work in the gardens, you know, just, you know, when they're not working, we'd like to just kind of, uh, enjoy God's gifts to us, so, right.
Speaker 1 00:07:46 That's right. I think we've all taken notice a little bit more to have those gifts. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:07:51 I think she was walking on that beach back then. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:07:57 The video call to knowing her. So anyway, let me hand it over to Ted.
Speaker 1 00:08:04 So my name is, uh, uh, Ted Pete. I have been, I guess, the infant in the industry and the giants that I'm surrounded by here. I've, uh, I've only been in the industry since, um, September of 2018. Prior to that, uh, I, you know, I, I had, uh, five or so years in manufacturing sales after 10 years as an electrical contractor. And, uh, you know, I, I spent, uh, I spent my early years after high school in the United States Marine Corps, I happened to, to gain a bum knee injury in that, and that that made the contract and career get a little short, but it was God lead me to the path that I had to be on to get into this industry, because I'll tell you what, when you join the energy industry, people, if you're looking for a career that is sustainable and that is so much fun to be a part of, I have enjoyed life. I have found my home for the rest of my career. And I know that. So, uh, I can't say enough about it while I've only been in here 18, 20 months, whatever it is. It is great. Um, with that said, had we got to let you know, we're going to have to let you go today.
Speaker 2 00:09:13 Oh gosh, again, no fourth intervention
Speaker 1 00:09:17 This week. Yes. I think
Speaker 2 00:09:19 That means I have an issue, but mostly
Speaker 1 00:09:22 Of us as friends, but yes, that's my biggest issue. It makes you a really insecure person when you got to talk to somebody like that, and then you're getting, Hey Joe, can I get feedback on this? So, uh, no, I've been, uh, I've been in the industry since September of 2018. I started out as a, the upstate New York regional sales manager, uh, with Chad. And then I've actually now as of the end of 2019, I took over our utility contractor division and I'm the manager of our sales team that services utility contractors, um, in my personal life, I, uh, my husband of a wonderful, wonderful Saint named Eileen who put up with, uh, my formative years of being an idiot and, uh, being a young dumber.
Speaker 2 00:10:10 Forgot about, say that about Lindsay dammit. Yeah, she's a Saint too. Yeah, I got you now.
Speaker 1 00:10:15 Nope. Now you're just, Hey, I can't wait. I'm sharing this attack just so you know, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, uh, we have two wonderful children. We have a 13 year old son, Nicholas, who is a, uh, a good little basketball player and a pretty great kid overall. And then I have my pride and joy, my little baby girl, uh, my 12 year old daughter, Christina, who, uh, pretty much has had me wrapped around her fingers since the day she was born. Um, she is a, a superb runner who I love just following her around the country, uh, as she runs all over the place. Um,
Speaker 2 00:10:51 She is, she is,
Speaker 1 00:10:53 She's one of the, uh, the, the best 12 year old girls in the nation. She's top 300. Yeah, I think she's two 71 in the nation. Um, again, very, very blessed with all the things God's given us. Uh, uh, again, I don't know too much else really about what people don't, I'm not that interesting anymore. I'm kind of old and boring now, but, uh, what we want to get into. Yeah. Thank you. Well, we're going to do now is tell why we all got together and are doing this mashup and because with two different industry or two different companies within the same industry, both of us kind of had a similar idea of like, Hey, we've got to make sure we stay relevant. We got to make sure that we stay in front of our customer base, that whether they're getting product or getting information or getting things specifically from us, we want them to still see Chad and still see James and still see, uh, Joe and myself and whatnot. So we created this little show and we really had no idea it wasn't going to be training. Was it going to be, uh, was it going to be casual what's and it's morphed.
Speaker 3 00:11:59 Yeah. We kind, kinda kind of add things in there. And, you know, I think, you know, whenever I talked to Ted and Joe, which I do every week, you know, we talk about a little more than once a week, right. But we talked about the word connections and Jim uses that word a lot. And, you know, connections for life has obstacles, tagline, number one. But as we get into every one of these meetings, or whenever we have somebody on, they use the word connections constantly, and it's because we are connecting the dots. And, and Jim, when you came on our show, uh, last week and you had this idea for this mashup, it's literally taken two different sides of the industry. What Epsco does is nothing like what, what you guys do, but they relate all interwoven. They relate so well and the people relate and th the stories relate.
Speaker 3 00:12:48 And I think that's, that's the whole point of, of our show is to try and connect those dots for people, not even so much for the products we're selling or the customers, and find this game in front of, but I just, that's how I feel. And I know Joe feels the same way, and he, I know he literally probably would say almost the same things. So Joe, if you, you know, I know we want to talk a little bit about where our shows came from you and I, and Ted kind of came up with the idea. So give us your thoughts too.
Speaker 1 00:13:12 Um, yeah. I don't know. I, you can not go ahead and said that you guys wanted to start taping your faces. So I said, yeah, let's go. Right. So here we are. No, I originally didn't want to be on camera. I just wanted to like, direct the thing. And that was, well, we couldn't figure out how to blur you out and have that all happen. So, but, uh, but no, I mean, it was, it was, again, we, as you guys said, and you guys summed it up perfectly, I, I don't have to really add much to it. It's just, we don't know what it is. We don't know what it's gonna look like. We don't know what, if it will continue, you know, we have some ideas, if so, once we go back to work, what that looks like and how we can kind of change and add things to, um, to make it relevant and interesting, you know, and that's really what we'd like it to do also, you know, I mean, as interesting as I think I am, I don't think people want to tune in for 15, 20 minutes just to listen to me Babylon.
Speaker 1 00:13:58 So I, you know, the content is really important as well. Um, and it's tough. It's tough to get the content, right. You know, you kind of struggle with it. Like, what are we going to talk about this week? Because we just did it the other day. And with everything kind of slowed down, there's not a whole lot of going on. Right. So you're kind of digging for stories and information and people and conversations. Um, honestly I think the coolest thing about all this man is that I get to talk to my friends that I probably normally wouldn't have been talking to if I wasn't doing this, you know, um, I have so many guys that I see in, in girls that I see on the trade show kind of circuit, you know, we kind of chase the country. Right. And, um, though we're just for friends and it's cool to get to see all you guys again. So I mean, that for me is, you know, talk about the connections piece. It was more of a friendship thing for me. And being able to just, uh, you know, just keep with the people that I care about and that are important to me. So that's, that's kinda my 2 cents.
Speaker 2 00:14:57 You kind of hit on what I, what I was going to say about ours since ours honestly started. Yeah. We know that. So, um, I'll just shut first time ever.
Speaker 1 00:15:05 First time ever did
Speaker 2 00:15:07 One time band camp, this actually started for us because honestly, every morning, Jim and I would get on a phone call and we try to say that during every episode, Jim and I, we would get on a phone call.
Speaker 1 00:15:24 It was a teenage boy sneaking in the back room and Chad's waving him off. Yes, yes. That's why the show is great guys right there. So that was great. You were trying to move the camera wave. Um, it was awesome. Sorry, James, James,
Speaker 2 00:15:42 Obviously we're live and we won't even edit that out.
Speaker 1 00:15:45 No, absolutely not. That makes sense. I may even know how to edit that out.
Speaker 2 00:15:49 Uh, so Jim and I used to get on phone calls every morning. And when, when this pandemic started, honestly, it was more therapy than work-related. It seemed like. And, and I was telling Jim, I said, man, we just got to get out there. There's so many people that feel exactly what we do. And the conversations always went down a path and it was honestly just about how we're feeling and what was going on and you know, the struggle of it all. And I said, Jim, let's just get on it. You know, he's trying to overthink it a little bit. Like we've got this thing we've got to do. And I was like, Jim, let's just get on a zoom call, record it. And we just talk about what happens, right? Yeah. Honestly, I would say the need kind of turned more into therapy and, you know, just being here today in the prelim of this whole thing, uh, for those that don't know, that happens every time from these calls and then the actual call, you know, to talk about it on the show. I think it, it helps me, it helps my mentality. I know it helps Jim. I've seen it. Uh, and hopefully it helps others. And that's yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:56 You talk about the pre-call like one of the funniest things we had happened was like, in one of our pre-calls we forgot to prep the guests. And we were like, listen, when we say goodbye and stuff, you don't have to hang up. Right. So, so yeah. Thanks for coming on the show guys, and I hit the stop record button. Right. And they hung up, they were gone. That's not supposed to work these prelim calls. We had to figure all this great stuff right there. No, I do. I just want to add to yours James, like it is, it's like cathartic thing. You're right. I mean, every day I get on the phone with, with Chad, I mean, it's almost always Chad and we talk about what's going on and about our day and a lot of it's just BS, but it's, it's, it's keeping you in a relationship and talking and, and instead of just staring at the walls, you know, and for us, people that are out, like, I always joke and I hope this, anybody finds some humor in this, but, um, I always joke that I was, I'm not allowed to go in the office because I'm an outside dog.
Speaker 1 00:17:52 I not allowed in indoors. Right. And that's, and that's how we are. We're outside dogs. So to have to be chained up inside and all the time, it was really difficult. The first few weeks for a lot of people specifically, I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly. But uh, that movie, no. Oh my gosh. The other guy out there, guys, Mark Walberg, I'm a peacock. You got to let me
Speaker 4 00:18:16 Fly, Jim. Jim,
Speaker 3 00:18:18 I can see, I can see you really thrive in and off of that conversation and this type of thing as we all do, but you even more, you're just such an outgoing, such a, such a, a guy that loves to be around other people and to learn about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:32 You're an outside dog and you let you know, that's just it's.
Speaker 4 00:18:35 Yeah. And you're absolutely right. And, and I praise and give, thanks to James for helping you with this because you're right. Chad, I live my life on the road in front of five, 10, 15 people having conversations, connecting the dots. Somebody comes up to me, Hey Jim, do you know anybody that does this? Yeah, I do switchboard. You know, and that comes back because that's what this industry is based on. It keeps thinking next to these relationships. And it really is true. The people that have been in this for a long term and Ted, you're going to have a wonderful long career in this. It's like, well, yeah, well, well at least
Speaker 1 00:19:16 I don't have the power or you'd be gone already threatened me with a good time
Speaker 4 00:19:24 Having those relationships and having those interconnections. I can't tell you like every day James is like, like last night somebody said, you know, anybody at blah, blah, blah pipeline. I'm like, Oh, I used to, or this or that, or, you know, and it, it makes you feel good when you can help because you know, it may seem like a micro example. But when you start to put the pieces of the puzzle together, micro where you're helping a lot of the industry move in the right direction, enough is very fulfilling. And it is a very relationship-based industry. It's
Speaker 3 00:19:55 A great way to put it
Speaker 1 00:19:56 Small. It was to me like it's a, it's a really big, small industry, right? Like it's global. But like, if you talk to certain people, different parts of the country and you're like, Hey, do you know what a guy? Well, there's four guys in the country who were amazing at that. And they are bop, bop, bop, bop. And everybody knows him. It's like, wow, it's a small industry.
Speaker 4 00:20:14 I don't know if you guys ran into it. But, um, you know, one of our struggles in the beginning, we were like, hold on, earth is going to one
Speaker 3 00:20:24 <inaudible>.
Speaker 4 00:20:29 And uh, after we put out the first one, which really was just me and Jim talking just therapeutically, we were flooded. Jim was flooded with calls.
Speaker 1 00:20:40 I get on, I come on, come on up. Can I get on? Yeah, we did choose who wants to talk to us? Right. I get it. It's crazy. But I feel like I
Speaker 2 00:20:48 Pulled the wool over. I don't know what we're doing. Obviously we don't know what we're doing here we are. But I think
Speaker 1 00:20:58 It gets to, I think there's some, I think there's some genuineness in that, you know, and I think that people can relate and you just have a hat change
Speaker 2 00:21:08 Figured out about halfway through. I give them a little representation right there. A little tire pump there.
Speaker 4 00:21:16 Hold on a second. The idea is that that wasn't planned Chad wearing that hat. He got that at a conference sometime back, like the hat has it in his arm.
Speaker 2 00:21:25 Yeah. In Ohio. The best part is I didn't ask for the hat. I took it,
Speaker 4 00:21:29 The UWN hat. I like it. And that goes back to James, our brand.
Speaker 2 00:21:34 You do a fantastic job, James. Seriously, you put out some amazing stuff. We always said you're, if there's anybody, I I've been doing this part-time stuff. I've been doing this for 10 years. James and I go to trade shows. I probably 10, 12, 15. I don't even know how many times a year. And I don't take anything home, but I have this seriously. The only stuff I take is your stuff. It was kind of funny when I joined UWM and then assume that role. Uh, but you know, we, we did what everybody else did. We had the standard hat standard logo, you know, like what Jim's wearing right now. Um, that was shirt. As we started talking to people, um, especially internally, it was like, we couldn't even get our own people about to wear our own stuff. And I go, well, let's make stuff that we want to wear. And then once we did that, everybody else wanted to wear too. I want one concept. You guys have really cool stuff. Yeah. Hopefully my boss is watching.
Speaker 1 00:22:40 She'd get a coffee with Jim and James on one side. And then our, all of our idiots,
Speaker 2 00:22:44 Ours will be just stick figures on in Sharpie, Larry Mo and curly on the coffee mugs. So guys, you know, we talked, give the intros, we talked a little bit, how we got here. What about moving forward? How do you guys see this thing moving forward? And, and what does it look like?
Speaker 1 00:23:11 So I was thinking, I was like, what? Let's all like prognosticate a little bit and see,
Speaker 2 00:23:16 How do you see the six person, five person show moving forward. I quit
Speaker 1 00:23:24 Or just show standpoint, you know, we did talk about some ideas, um, like doing some, like when we go to trade shows, doing some like live conversations and recording those
Speaker 2 00:23:32 Setting up a live podcast. Yeah. Right. Yep.
Speaker 1 00:23:36 And then we talked about doing, maybe going to do some, you know, cause we do have a contractor division as well, and they do a lot with that tooling and equipment and a lot of onsite things. So, uh, we had discussed maybe doing dumps and videos and things that we could snip in, um, and, and kind of educational. Um, as we roll that out, um, I think it's kind of limitless. We don't really have any,
Speaker 3 00:23:55 The tough part is one. If we start going back to regular, you know, our regular, our regular scheduled programming, um, it's a tough thing to do. So what we've been trying to do is, is still trying to get a lot of information, trying to bank interviews. And we are, we have to keep going. We can't stop now. We've, we've grown so much momentum that it would just be, it would be stupid to stop. And plus it's too much fun. Let's
Speaker 1 00:24:20 Be honest. I have a ball with
Speaker 3 00:24:23 A lot of dirt
Speaker 1 00:24:25 And the banter that we get with our, within the people in our company or within the people in the industry, like there's some folks that I never spoke to or anything like that that were like, you guys are killing it on that show. That's so it's fun to watch. And they sent me out and I'm like, really sure that it's, I'm sure that it's high, but I had people reach out to me and be like, that's awesome. But you know, people that aren't even like in the natural gas industry and I'm like,
Speaker 3 00:24:46 It's almost like a normalcy thing too. It's kind of it, you know, I'm sure it's for you, Jim. Like you said, you're out there, you see in five, 10, 50 people, we are the same too. We did. But all we did was take the show and try and provide what we would provide people in front of them through a show that anybody can get that information that we would try and share. And I think that's the same thing you guys have done, especially Jim, you are, you are and take this as one of the best comments that you could get from me, a switchboard of the industry. And that's what we kind of call it. And that's what we all aspire to be. I mean, I don't aspire to be a great sales guy. I'll be a great sales guy. I can lead people. I appreciate that comment. And that it's going to keep going. Yeah, no, Jim, you caught me off now. Now I got y'all job. Jim, how many connections do you have on LinkedIn? How many? 7,600. And some, something like that.
Speaker 1 00:25:44 How many did you pay for?
Speaker 3 00:25:45 Uh, only like 7,395. See, I only
Speaker 1 00:25:49 Have like 400, I think. I don't
Speaker 3 00:25:54 Know. I know Jim Jim's. Uh, I have, so you are, you are you, you are a switchboard and take that as the best compliment that any of us can probably give you that. So it's really unique thing to be around long enough and to, and to know enough people at end users, as well as suppliers and things like that, to be able to put those pieces together. And that's, that's always a neat thing. And interesting.
Speaker 1 00:26:18 I have to, I have to ask you guys, where do you guys see your show? Like what do you see, you know, a month or three months or a year down the road looking like
Speaker 3 00:26:27 Canceled after that expired, the pilot didn't get picked up. Huh?
Speaker 1 00:26:34 It's like you sometimes imagine, what are you going to do with all the swag you guys bought? The Cubs, the t-shirt all the hoodies.
Speaker 3 00:26:40 Yeah. When the money starts pouring in, I think we'll just lay low.
Speaker 2 00:26:44 And I moved to Florida when the sponsors sponsor started showing up, you get to move in with the New York, moved to New York. James is going to move to Florida. I think what you guys said is right along the lines of what we're, we're talking about, you know, at some point we hope and pray, we'll be back out there in the wild and those to me see even easier. Right. Uh, you can just go live. Right. Um, I think that those are slam dunks as we've seen clients and more people get involved and watching them, uh, you know, I think the ideas kind of, uh, STEM from, from those conversations, whether it be like you said, provide, I mean, we're a training company. Um, so it's easy for us to supplant that stuff in there as needed. Um, Jim, what are you think? Uh,
Speaker 4 00:27:40 I would agree with that. And I really liked the idea of me being a social person. What know, I think Joe hit on was, you know, being at conferences and being able to do an impromptu right away, you come up with some great conversations, say, Hey, we should, or we should go live because this, somebody could use this information could be three minutes
Speaker 2 00:27:59 Are happening all over the place.
Speaker 4 00:28:01 I mean, I would like that to be part of my arsenal because again, if I could be that switchboard and record something real quick and then disseminate it out for me, you know?
Speaker 2 00:28:13 Great. And how technology allows us to do that now. I mean, if you think about kind of, I mean, just in the, not so distant past, you know, like when did the first iPhone come out? Oh, six Oh seven. Like, can you think about where technology has brought us now where we can be at each other's fingertips in seconds globally? I think is amazing. Absolutely
Speaker 4 00:28:37 Getting better though, Ted, you know, it's going to be better and easier and we're going to be able to utilize it a lot easier. Um, as far as the show too, uh, I want it to go on our, our coffee series. I think we'll evolve and enhance and grow into Morphin and brunch.
Speaker 2 00:28:57 Well
Speaker 4 00:28:58 It'll w w we won't seek it. It'll seek us meaning they actually progress. And all of a sudden James and I will be like, Hey, we should do a thing on blank. Yeah. That's a good idea. Look at. So I think if you just let it flow and let it go, good things will happen. It's it's carried us. And again, I don't know, we're at a dozen episodes, 10,
Speaker 2 00:29:21 11 two, when we started, I'm just saying how long we've been recording. This feels like, yeah. Right. Um, cool. I mean, I think that's great, guys. I think we've kind of covered what we wanted to cover with this mashup. I think that do it again in a month or something. Oh, absolutely. Maybe a quarter, get some feedback. Let's get some feedback from the CR, have people comment and subscribe and open those things and let us know what they want to see us talk about or, or act like, or do something pick on, you know, gel pick on Ted, some more something. Like I was thinking that maybe we could do some like, like, I dunno, maybe like some giveaway or something like, you know, based on like, we give some to ad. Yeah. Sweet hat.
Speaker 2 00:30:09 I'll give away five of these comments. I'll send you guys some, okay. Okay. That's a start, right? I'd give away five of the hat I was wearing that this was, this was actually from one of our principals who I got to shout out. Awesome. Builders of Wisconsin sent me this. Uh, they're one of our connections. Um, they're phenomenal organization. This was a great crystal present shopping network. Can you put the bag back? I didn't, I didn't even get one from upscale. We gotta come up with something good. We actually use the branding manager team. All I do is give, you got a shirt it's reward. You get rewarded for that with fulfilling feelings, you have shirts.
Speaker 2 00:31:03 All right. All right, guys. Hey, this was great for connections for life. Uh, for coffee with Jim and James, I think, uh, we had a great time here today. We look forward to, uh, hearing from the viewers. All right. You guys have any parting shots? No. Let them go. Anything over there, Jim or James? It was fun, man. We appreciate you guys. And what you're doing out there, keep doing it. We'll do the same, please. Any way we can help this industry and God bless it. God bless you guys. And most importantly, guys love you and cannot wait to see you soon person in real life. Yes, I'm excited. All right. Have a good one.
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